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Roger that. Reasonable (imo) alternative to previous 3-4-3 if you don't feel secure about midfield
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Mokrzycki and Bednarz are prone to weather event, but we cannot do anything about it. xIM and xF are set unoptimally to allow for easy change to 3-4-3 (Mokrzycki xIM->DF) when leading by a few goals.

should be PIC, not PIN: MF->passable(low-high)

I'm confused. Wouldn't be easier to put Mokrzycki as eim from cd position and Bednarz as fw?

This way we can move to 343 easily too...

Anyway, as of now I feel brave enough to start with a 343 with cdo...but I'm still thinking about it.

myamlak napisał:

Roger that. Reasonable (imo) alternative to previous 3-4-3 if you don't feel secure about midfield
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Mokrzycki and Bednarz are prone to weather event, but we cannot do anything about it. xIM and xF are set unoptimally to allow for easy change to 3-4-3 (Mokrzycki xIM->DF) when leading by a few goals.

should be PIC, not PIN: MF->passable(low-high)

I'm confused. Wouldn't be easier to put Mokrzycki as eim from cd position and Bednarz as fw?

Not if you would like to have Mokrzycki still on the pitch. For two reasons:
- XP
- midfield (as DF)

As for offCD, if you want to put inner with some PM there, it might be worth to consider normal order. Gain in MF due to using offensive one is really tiny - roughly 1/10 of normal inner contribution.

Yes, but you could make Mokrzycki cdo and make the starting cd efw...

myamlak napisał:

I'm confused. Wouldn't be easier to put Mokrzycki as eim from cd position and Bednarz as fw?

Not if you would like to have Mokrzycki still on the pitch. For two reasons:
- XP
- midfield (as DF)

I know, but unfortunately we don't have any real cdo's in this generation(or the world cup one):(.

So as cdo we would have to play a real im, and in this case I see no reason to use the cd order.

myamlak napisał:

As for offCD, if you want to put inner with some PM there, it might be worth to consider normal order. Gain in MF due to using offensive one is really tiny - roughly 1/10 of normal inner contribution.

Actually, now I am also thinking about starting with a 352 with 2imo and move to 343 if we win big enough, especially since it will be easier to play a 343 next week....

Illustrating CD/offCD point. As far as HO can be treated as reliable (shouldn't be far off in CD/offCD contributions):

1.
Witomski

Sowul(def)--Jaroszek--Bednarz(xF)--Basta

Szot(xIM)--Sozański(off)--Strzeboński(off)--Semik(off)

Zagajewski--Mokrzycki(def)

7.03--7.56--8.08

-------5.95-------

4.62--10.02--10.21

2. Banaszczyk as normal CD instead of Jaroszek

6.49--6.31--7.52

-------6.19-------

3. Banaszczyk as offCD

6.36--6.02--7.39

-------6.34-------

Yes, so depending on the choice of tactics and what we expect from the opponent, one has to decide whether it improves a tiny bit the defence or the midfield.

Most of the time I prefer to improve the midfield a little bit, but I definitely see your argument and see a lot of useful situations for a cd...

Looking at the level of their defense (not more than formidable in the middle) I see no reason to play 3 normal forwards. Zagajewski+Bednarz+Mokrzycki set defensive is clearly enough, this should put our attack above their defense and we won't gain more by pushing it higher, it is better to put our resources into midfield or defense :)

mastercyb napisał:

Yes, so depending on the choice of tactics and what we expect from the opponent, one has to decide whether it improves a tiny bit the defence or the midfield.

Most of the time I prefer to improve the midfield a little bit, but I definitely see your argument and see a lot of useful situations for a cd...

Urghhh, just now I noticed that my initial post should be not

As for offCD, if you want to put inner with some PM there, it might be worth to consider normal order. Gain in MF due to using offensive one is really tiny - roughly 1/10 of normal inner contribution

but

As for offCD, if you want to put inner with some defending there, it might be worth to consider normal order. Gain in MF due to using offensive one is really tiny - roughly 1/10 of normal inner contribution

mastercyb napisał:

You know I meant 19yo's....:)

Mokrzycki is 19yo captain... Do You need 2nd 19yo captain? ;-)

I think we need only one captain per generation, one 19yo for current campaign and one 17yo for next WC ;-)

Captain's exp is more needful than exp of common players. As You can see we gave You captain with passable vh exp - it will be big advantage in next rounds. Match against 18yo players is the best opportunity to increase exp of younger captain.

Btw, you're still against having doman around?

No, I'm not against. I'm not sure he really wanted to join this forum because he didn't ask admins to activate account. We couldn't force him if he doesn't want to be in htpr. Slave isn't good worker ;-)

You must know I encouraged him several times to help our NT and invited him to register here (I do this very often if somebody only criticize NT staff). But he always said that this forum was harmful for our NT and Polish community, and every post, help for NT, decision about NT, player's skills, and propositions of lineup, in a word: everything should be public.

He has chance here and now to set example and show, that it's possible ;-)

If it isn't possible, he should said public what does he want to do and why did he change opinion. I will be fair.

He criticized many times this forum and and NT workers registered here. And one season ago he registered here without informing NT coaches. NT coach asked him what did he want to do. He said he didn't want to help us only wanted to control us. It isn't comfortable situation for us and therefore his account wasn't activated.

I think he still didn't want to help us. Few days ago he promoted interesting inner: Grzesiek Słota (273565065). Perfect age, fine secondaries, currently he is in top-10 our perfect aged inners. Our scouts are doing fantastic job, trying to find every interesting player, negotiating best trening. And Suchywojtas made great database (NTDB). Doman know this tool but didn't log in order to help our scouts, didn't inform our scouts too, he did everything to sabotage our job - player was transferlisted but first time price was inflated and player lost training.

We are here to help each other, not to disturb.

If he understand this his account should be activated.

1. Yes, a captain is very important and that is why I said we have to continue doing that. However, look what happened at Romania at the last world cup. We had a good captain, and with 3-4 general trainings he was still in poor form throughout the world cup and we couldn't use it. It is very possible that one single player has problems(form, injuries) so it is always good to have back up solutions. Also, the owner of our current captain is not 100%dedicated to the player, I'm not even sure he will train pm the whole season(as he has some suomi players too:( ). Next season we may have a lot of troubles convincing him to train general when needed.

So for these reasons, I am trying to also play a couple of other 19yo's.

Anyway, I completely agree with the fact that we should create a 17yo captain, the player is on my bookmarks and once things get a little bit clearer he will get a couple of games. Do you know how many games the current 19yo captain played in the last u20 qualifications?. That doesn't mean I will do the same, but I cannot afford to risk this season and next one, especially since we know that also for the world cup generation we have a very difficult situation with the inners(quality, specialies) since basically 1/2 of generation(and the head ones) got lost:(.

2. I understand the situation with doman, and I understand there have to be a lot of discussions to set things straight. Thanks for informing me better about this.

mastercyb napisał:

Do you know how many games the current 19yo captain played in the last u20 qualifications?

0, which was definitely a bad thing caused by extreamally unlucky qualifying round. Now we are not even near such amount of bad luck.

In the qualifications before 17yo future captain played 6 games. And it was before substitutions were introduced, so each time I fielded him I had to field him for the whole game.

It's true we don't have a lot of free slots. On the other hand, we have quite wide squad, every player can play at least 8 more games and in emergency cases our coaches are easily removable ;) If you feel we lack team slots, maybe we shlould try to get a playing coach and get rid of overaged ones?

mastercyb napisał:

the owner of our current captain is not 100%dedicated to the player

This is not a problem with Odwrot, he is in a Polish team :)

But this is a problem with me, since the generation that I am in charge of has a lot of problems:(.

And you cannot say that after two games we have a good or bad qualification campaign. We have one of the toughest groups in these qualifications, and if we are not careful things can go wrong in a second. Anyway, as I said, I am confident the 17yo captain will play enough games. However, the main goal at this moment is to maximize our chances of getting to the world cup and then of doing well there.

mastercyb napisał:

the owner of our current captain is not 100%dedicated to the player

This is not a problem with Odwrot, he is in a Polish team :)[/quote]