Ecuador

Good morning everyone. Some informations about Ecuador's team.

29.01.2010 - Away (3 match)
19.03.2010 - Home (10 match)

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How you can see, it's a document with their stats. I will add new info after next training.
National Coach of Ecuador (marvinmad) prepares long-term plan, so representation is very young. Most of players have 18 years old, without experience. Lost two matches:

Ecuador 1 - 4 México 15.01.2010

Formation 5-3-2
Tactic Counter-attacks
Tactic skill formidable

Midfield wretched (high)
Right Defence solid(high)
Central Defence formidable (low)
Left Defence solid(low)
Right Attack inadequate (very high)
Central Attack poor (very high)
Left Attack wretched (very low)

Ecuador 1 - 2 Rossiya 22.01.2010

Formation 4-5-1
Tactic Counter-attacks
Tactic skill solid

Midfield poor (very high)
Right Defence solid (very high)
Central Defence formidable (low)
Left Defence excellent (low)
Right Attack inadequate (very low)
Central Attack wretched (very low)
Left Attack disastrous (very high)

22.01.2010 after match with Rossiya
Team Spirit: content
Confidence: poor

If you have questions, write to me. And if my english language is bad, write to me too ;) I prefer other language.

This is the first time when I see an U20 with two overaged coaches who both are defensive :)

This is a game we have to pic, make our goal difference and team confidence as good as possible, get some formation experience and field at least those 19yos who are currently in the team :) So we have to plan it well even though the opponent is an easy one.

Well, Mexico had two offensive coaches after the ts reset( I haven't checked if the kicked one of them out). Yes, against Ecuador we will play the keeper, defender(sp), captain and forward, I may call one more inner or winger. But we have to be careful, a big score would also be very nice.

jacek_BTL napisał:

This is the first time when I see an U20 with two overaged coaches who both are defensive :)

This is a game we have to pic, make our goal difference and team confidence as good as possible, get some formation experience and field at least those 19yos who are currently in the team :) So we have to plan it well even though the opponent is an easy one.

I think that we should start 3-5-2 and last 20-30 minutes of the match we could play 3-4-3 to increase formation experience. Moreover playing creatively should help with high confidence for next matches.
3-5-2:
WBdef-CDtw-WBoff
IM-IM-IM-IMtw-WGoff
2xFW/FW+TDF
3-4-3:
WBdef-CDtw-WBoff
IM-IM-IM-IMoff
3xFW/2FW+TDF

We could also exchange CDtw for CDoff and WBoff for WBnormal.
PIC and offensive coach.

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This is the hrf. Only Python and the captain haven't trained, but I think it should be ok to make calculations.

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If midfield is high enough to have no risk then I'd go for sth like:
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Zdzisław Odwrot (274162211)

This guy has solid playmaking, defending and leadership and he will be the captain for next World Cup. As our situation is quite good and we have two fairly easy games now, I think we can call him, put him as sub defender today and field him if the score is good :)

As for the lineup, I think myamlak's proposal is nearly perfect. I'd change one thing: field Szot instead of Banaszczyk. He gives a little more to attack and the game will be played in rain, negative weather event of technical inner would hurt more than similar one of a quick :)

I think the best place to put Odwrot would be wingback defensive instead of Basta if we lead by more than two. With this score pullback is quite likely and with it our defence will be really good, even without it it won't be that bad, especially that Odwrot's low stamina will not hurt if he plays only part of the match :)

And one more thing: probably we should take extra forward from winger slot and extra inner from defender slot, so that it is easy to change this forward into WTM for last minutes and gain some 352 experience :)

jacek_BTL napisał:

As for the lineup, I think myamlak's proposal is nearly perfect. I'd change one thing: field Szot instead of Banaszczyk. He gives a little more to attack and the game will be played in rain, negative weather event of technical inner would hurt more than similar one of a quick :)

Didn't check the weather, sorry. Are we able to estimate what is the maximum midfield they can get with PIN (5 inners and def forward for example)?

I was thinking about something similar, but with the captain as cdo and 3 forwards(for start) and then going back to 352 for 25 minutes.

I will make more calculations too and see what is best for us.

As far as the 17yo is concerned, I will also think about it, but at the moment I think i'd rather call a 19yo defender, or inner to increase experience for the world cup generation. However, not even that is something I'm very sure I want to do, as 4 empty slots is not that much and we will have a couple of very difficult games coming up(especially since we have quite some players that cannot play the whole qualification).

As far as the 17yo is concerned, I will also think about it, but at the moment I think i'd rather call a 19yo defender, or inner to increase experience for the world cup generation

17yo captain is player of world cup generation ;-)

But his experience is more important than exp of other players.

@mastercyb
As for the 17 yo, it's obviously up to you to judge. The facts are like this:
- since 5 or 6 terms every Polish U-20 coach and NT-coach try to give as much XP as possible to the future U-20 captain
- captain's XP is way more influential than others and is a great alternative to giving up the whole WC for XP-training on the roster: a few seasons ago this approach started to be copied by other U-20s (Belgium, Nederlands and quite a few others)
- fielding 17 yo is a pain in the ass (less so in easy matches though)

Ed corrected miswritings

I don't think they can get to solid, or not more than solid vl.

myamlak napisał:

jacek_BTL napisał:

As for the lineup, I think myamlak's proposal is nearly perfect. I'd change one thing: field Szot instead of Banaszczyk. He gives a little more to attack and the game will be played in rain, negative weather event of technical inner would hurt more than similar one of a quick :)

Didn't check the weather, sorry. Are we able to estimate what is the maximum midfield they can get with PIN (5 inners and def forward for example)?

You know I meant 19yo's....:). Btw, you're still against having doman around?

Yes, I know. But I think the group plays an important role too. We have only 4 more slots available, a very difficult group ahead of us, a lot of players that cannot play the whole tournament and some players that are not looking good(form wise). The 17yo is a priority once we can afford to play him, but for now I think it is better to leave those slots free.

myamlak napisał:

@mastercyb
As for the 17 yo, it's up to you to judge. The facts are like this:
- since 5 or 6 terms every Polish U-20 coach and NT-coach try to give as much XP as possible to the future U-20 captain
- captain's XP is way more influential than others and is a great alternative to giving up the whole WC for XP-training on the roster: a few seasons this approach ago started to be copied by other U-20s (Belgium, Nederlands and quite a few others)
- fielding 17 yo is a pain in the ass (less so in easy matches though)